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	<title>Comments on: UNSCHOOLING &amp; UNWORKING: Confessions of a stay-at-home family (Part 2), by Myra Eddy</title>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For us it was the book Your Money Or Your Life - one branch of &quot;Voluntary Simplicity&quot; - or better still &quot;Intentional Living&quot;.  Make your choices and re-evaluate how they turned out; but don&#039;t run with the herd or let the current take you by default.

I&#039;m glad that unschooling is working for you.  We&#039;ve seen examples that make us want more for our kids; so we have a bit of daily work.  Mind you it&#039;s interesting how bath time can involve screams about getting wet; and yet a swimming class (with someone else as teacher) can have the same child dunking their head and not complaining as they fail to stay afloat!

What&#039;s shocked me was just how much useless homework kids get these days (public school).  It seems it&#039;s not enough to consume their time at school!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For us it was the book Your Money Or Your Life &#8211; one branch of &#8220;Voluntary Simplicity&#8221; &#8211; or better still &#8220;Intentional Living&#8221;.  Make your choices and re-evaluate how they turned out; but don&#8217;t run with the herd or let the current take you by default.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that unschooling is working for you.  We&#8217;ve seen examples that make us want more for our kids; so we have a bit of daily work.  Mind you it&#8217;s interesting how bath time can involve screams about getting wet; and yet a swimming class (with someone else as teacher) can have the same child dunking their head and not complaining as they fail to stay afloat!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s shocked me was just how much useless homework kids get these days (public school).  It seems it&#8217;s not enough to consume their time at school!</p>
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		<title>By: WELCOME MYRA EDDY!!!: Our new team contributor &#171; THESE NEW OLD TRADITIONS</title>
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		<dc:creator>WELCOME MYRA EDDY!!!: Our new team contributor &#171; THESE NEW OLD TRADITIONS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Old Tradition tuath of tasty truths. In addition to writing the two-part feature on unschooling and unworking, Myra puts out The Village Magazine and has recently finished a book of and on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: hughowens</title>
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		<dc:creator>hughowens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MyraE: enjoy your perspective and your attention to your own needs and those of your daughter. You  are living a life of a 3rd world woman in what still passes for a 1st world.  You can have time or money. Right now as we approach the end of our debt laden profligate industrial economy, many more of our people will be experiencing a new frugality, some embracing it, many cursing it. The American Dream never had a future and the great delamination is now underway. People like you will make this delamination bearable and even enjoyable. I salute you. I now live on in one month what I used to earn in one day but going back to that overpaid horrible job as a physician has no appeal. It&#039;s time or money, Myra. cheers and godspeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MyraE: enjoy your perspective and your attention to your own needs and those of your daughter. You  are living a life of a 3rd world woman in what still passes for a 1st world.  You can have time or money. Right now as we approach the end of our debt laden profligate industrial economy, many more of our people will be experiencing a new frugality, some embracing it, many cursing it. The American Dream never had a future and the great delamination is now underway. People like you will make this delamination bearable and even enjoyable. I salute you. I now live on in one month what I used to earn in one day but going back to that overpaid horrible job as a physician has no appeal. It&#8217;s time or money, Myra. cheers and godspeed.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myra E,
Thanks for the cautions. Yeah, I&#039;m not going into this naively -- I lived at the place for a bit last summer and I know what&#039;s what -- no refrigeration, no shower (but there is a creek and a wood fired sauna), small dwellings, hard work, and pretty primitive conditions overall. But then I actually actually enjoy winter camping, and have quite a bit of wilderness experience as well as some wilderness first aid skills. I&#039;m ready for some hardship, but it is the human element that makes it doable. Good people who support each other are the key.

Lately my life out here in &quot;civilization&quot; seems more and more unreal. It&#039;s really hard to convince people who know and can imagine nothing but our oil soaked way of life that anything else is either possible of desirable. 

Peace,
G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myra E,<br />
Thanks for the cautions. Yeah, I&#8217;m not going into this naively &#8212; I lived at the place for a bit last summer and I know what&#8217;s what &#8212; no refrigeration, no shower (but there is a creek and a wood fired sauna), small dwellings, hard work, and pretty primitive conditions overall. But then I actually actually enjoy winter camping, and have quite a bit of wilderness experience as well as some wilderness first aid skills. I&#8217;m ready for some hardship, but it is the human element that makes it doable. Good people who support each other are the key.</p>
<p>Lately my life out here in &#8220;civilization&#8221; seems more and more unreal. It&#8217;s really hard to convince people who know and can imagine nothing but our oil soaked way of life that anything else is either possible of desirable. </p>
<p>Peace,<br />
G</p>
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		<title>By: myra e</title>
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		<dc:creator>myra e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A word of caution, just because I have been called out on cheerleading before.  This kind of life does not exactly resemble normal and comfortable.  It takes some adjusting to and some getting used to.  My life is a lot more physically uncomfortable than it used to be--cold in winter, hot in summer, the physical labor involved in carrying wood and water and growing food (though I prefer it to sitting at a desk).  Living with no health care means we have to rely on ourselves to be healthy, requiring us to take responsibility to eat medicine in the form of good food and herbs, to labor and rest, and to allow our community to hold us in brilliant spirits in this dark and cold time of year.  It also means good fortune in knowing an herbalist, midwife, or other helpful, caring and knowledgeable member of your community.  There are certainly times when life pulls the rug out from under you, no matter what kind of life you are living.  That&#039;s just how it is. 

Now the cheerleader in me insists on butting in here!  This drop out life might be physically harder (somewhat, I mean... I like physical labor, myself), but it&#039;s much more psychologically comfortable.  Yes, as much as possible, I avoid anything that makes me feel icky, whether it&#039;s voting, working a large quantity of my waking life, not having the time to nurture my kid (school, daycare), shopping...the list goes on (and I&#039;m sure it&#039;s different for all of us).  That&#039;s dropping out, sure, but it&#039;s the dropping in that can make all the difference in living a reality-based life.

When I began to have time to nurture human relationships, the blessings began to flow.  It&#039;s just incredible how the universe, god, karma...whatever ...flows whatever I need to me (though not always what I want).  Part of that is, of course, the ability to see blessings everywhere I look.  Not everyone can live in a ghetto and see that she&#039;s really surrounded by beautiful people living in community in the garden of eden.  I&#039;m no fool, and I can see both realities all at once.  I do everything I can to make my reality as living in the hands of the gods, so to speak.  It&#039;s chaos, it&#039;s beauty, adventure, tragedy (inevitable, unfortunately), it&#039;s full on hardcore love and passion.  

And then the skeptic steps forth, for the final word.  Yes, but beware, we are responsible for creating our own realities, and we must be up to that task before we break out of this black iron prison that many of us, entranced, mistake for the cave of treasures.  (pkd)  

If you&#039;re the typical imaginative big-brained creative human who is capable of feeling emotions, you&#039;ll probably adapt fairly well, and honestly, I highly encourage you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A word of caution, just because I have been called out on cheerleading before.  This kind of life does not exactly resemble normal and comfortable.  It takes some adjusting to and some getting used to.  My life is a lot more physically uncomfortable than it used to be&#8211;cold in winter, hot in summer, the physical labor involved in carrying wood and water and growing food (though I prefer it to sitting at a desk).  Living with no health care means we have to rely on ourselves to be healthy, requiring us to take responsibility to eat medicine in the form of good food and herbs, to labor and rest, and to allow our community to hold us in brilliant spirits in this dark and cold time of year.  It also means good fortune in knowing an herbalist, midwife, or other helpful, caring and knowledgeable member of your community.  There are certainly times when life pulls the rug out from under you, no matter what kind of life you are living.  That&#8217;s just how it is. </p>
<p>Now the cheerleader in me insists on butting in here!  This drop out life might be physically harder (somewhat, I mean&#8230; I like physical labor, myself), but it&#8217;s much more psychologically comfortable.  Yes, as much as possible, I avoid anything that makes me feel icky, whether it&#8217;s voting, working a large quantity of my waking life, not having the time to nurture my kid (school, daycare), shopping&#8230;the list goes on (and I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s different for all of us).  That&#8217;s dropping out, sure, but it&#8217;s the dropping in that can make all the difference in living a reality-based life.</p>
<p>When I began to have time to nurture human relationships, the blessings began to flow.  It&#8217;s just incredible how the universe, god, karma&#8230;whatever &#8230;flows whatever I need to me (though not always what I want).  Part of that is, of course, the ability to see blessings everywhere I look.  Not everyone can live in a ghetto and see that she&#8217;s really surrounded by beautiful people living in community in the garden of eden.  I&#8217;m no fool, and I can see both realities all at once.  I do everything I can to make my reality as living in the hands of the gods, so to speak.  It&#8217;s chaos, it&#8217;s beauty, adventure, tragedy (inevitable, unfortunately), it&#8217;s full on hardcore love and passion.  </p>
<p>And then the skeptic steps forth, for the final word.  Yes, but beware, we are responsible for creating our own realities, and we must be up to that task before we break out of this black iron prison that many of us, entranced, mistake for the cave of treasures.  (pkd)  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re the typical imaginative big-brained creative human who is capable of feeling emotions, you&#8217;ll probably adapt fairly well, and honestly, I highly encourage you!</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really happy I stumbled across this and your last article. I just began a leave of absence (a slower way of quitting that happens open to be open to me as a college teacher) and will be moving to an anarchist community in the NW of Washington state in a few weeks. Lately I admit I have been asking myself - &quot;Are you out of you friggin mind??&quot; Part of my doubts come from the incessant questions of (mostly) well-meaning friends. They keep asking things like: &quot;What are you going to do about healthcare? Are you sure it&#039;s such a good idea in the current economic climate? What are you going to do for &#039;a living&#039;?&quot; As if wage slavery were living... And I&#039;ve had it relatively good as an academic.

Thanks for the pep talk. Now I have some more ideas about how to respond.
-G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really happy I stumbled across this and your last article. I just began a leave of absence (a slower way of quitting that happens open to be open to me as a college teacher) and will be moving to an anarchist community in the NW of Washington state in a few weeks. Lately I admit I have been asking myself &#8211; &#8220;Are you out of you friggin mind??&#8221; Part of my doubts come from the incessant questions of (mostly) well-meaning friends. They keep asking things like: &#8220;What are you going to do about healthcare? Are you sure it&#8217;s such a good idea in the current economic climate? What are you going to do for &#8216;a living&#8217;?&#8221; As if wage slavery were living&#8230; And I&#8217;ve had it relatively good as an academic.</p>
<p>Thanks for the pep talk. Now I have some more ideas about how to respond.<br />
-G</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, Myra e i very much liked the article, and breaking it down as per Fogler suggests does paint a very strong picture for reassessing what my time is worth.

I wanted to respond to Indra; writing comments on blog entries seems to be a good way to find like-minded people. I mean hey they are already reading the same things you are so there is at least that level of interest, and you may find that in the comments you have even more in common than just your likes of &#039;surfing material&#039;.   

The case in point, I&#039;m also located in Denmark (Aarhus area). Right now i work part-time from home, so don&#039;t get out as much as id like, but i think soon ill be doing what you suggest and try the local cafes to try and find some like minded &quot;non-workers&quot;. My idea is that maybe we &#039;non-workers&#039; can just think up things to do (make, build, experiment) and make a game of finding stuff (like dumpster-diving) and just brainstorm ways to make some smaller scale communities even here in Scandinavia.

Drop me an email at my blog if your in the Aarhus area or want to keep up communication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, Myra e i very much liked the article, and breaking it down as per Fogler suggests does paint a very strong picture for reassessing what my time is worth.</p>
<p>I wanted to respond to Indra; writing comments on blog entries seems to be a good way to find like-minded people. I mean hey they are already reading the same things you are so there is at least that level of interest, and you may find that in the comments you have even more in common than just your likes of &#8216;surfing material&#8217;.   </p>
<p>The case in point, I&#8217;m also located in Denmark (Aarhus area). Right now i work part-time from home, so don&#8217;t get out as much as id like, but i think soon ill be doing what you suggest and try the local cafes to try and find some like minded &#8220;non-workers&#8221;. My idea is that maybe we &#8216;non-workers&#8217; can just think up things to do (make, build, experiment) and make a game of finding stuff (like dumpster-diving) and just brainstorm ways to make some smaller scale communities even here in Scandinavia.</p>
<p>Drop me an email at my blog if your in the Aarhus area or want to keep up communication.</p>
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		<title>By: Dody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 02:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are a stay at home family.  It wasn&#039;t by choice at first.  But now, I can&#039;t bare to be without my husband by my side.  The idea that he would be gone for 8 to 10 hours a day with strangers (!) is frightening.  Now if he works, he will be amongst neighbors.  There are many stay at home families here now.  I guess the recession is teaching more people how to live without money.  

I also unschool my kids at home.  My eldest (age 13) is on par with her local public school peers and she still has time to paint, garden, draw, and tend animals.  What is public school..if not free day care or pseudo parents?  Public school has become so over reaching into the family now, that they claim they have guardianship over children during school hours!  Like hell!  Thankfully I joined a nice organization that sees things the same way as you... HSLDA.  They are very religious (and not even my religion) but they have the right idea about how families should get to decide how they live their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are a stay at home family.  It wasn&#8217;t by choice at first.  But now, I can&#8217;t bare to be without my husband by my side.  The idea that he would be gone for 8 to 10 hours a day with strangers (!) is frightening.  Now if he works, he will be amongst neighbors.  There are many stay at home families here now.  I guess the recession is teaching more people how to live without money.  </p>
<p>I also unschool my kids at home.  My eldest (age 13) is on par with her local public school peers and she still has time to paint, garden, draw, and tend animals.  What is public school..if not free day care or pseudo parents?  Public school has become so over reaching into the family now, that they claim they have guardianship over children during school hours!  Like hell!  Thankfully I joined a nice organization that sees things the same way as you&#8230; HSLDA.  They are very religious (and not even my religion) but they have the right idea about how families should get to decide how they live their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great posts these...I&#039;ve always been curious about the trend toward one person households (check out last 2-3 censuses and see how household size is plummeting). But if you really look carefully at it, this trend is invaluable for the corporate machine as it is the &quot;new&quot; market for homebuilding and also diminishes community rather than bringing it together.  We then become less tolerant of each other and our personal idiosyncrasies.  I agree that community building and finding common needs and values is critical. Keep it up!

Chris R.
The Localizer Blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great posts these&#8230;I&#8217;ve always been curious about the trend toward one person households (check out last 2-3 censuses and see how household size is plummeting). But if you really look carefully at it, this trend is invaluable for the corporate machine as it is the &#8220;new&#8221; market for homebuilding and also diminishes community rather than bringing it together.  We then become less tolerant of each other and our personal idiosyncrasies.  I agree that community building and finding common needs and values is critical. Keep it up!</p>
<p>Chris R.<br />
The Localizer Blog</p>
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		<title>By: unconventionalideas</title>
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		<dc:creator>unconventionalideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The good news is that as industrial civilization collapses, the unschooling/unjobbing life will become a respected option many intelligent people will select.

Fogler probably never thought this would happen, but it is coming, and sooner than we think.

I actually look forward to this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news is that as industrial civilization collapses, the unschooling/unjobbing life will become a respected option many intelligent people will select.</p>
<p>Fogler probably never thought this would happen, but it is coming, and sooner than we think.</p>
<p>I actually look forward to this.</p>
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		<title>By: myra e</title>
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		<dc:creator>myra e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To unjob doesn&#039;t necessarily mean to quit all jobs.  The reality is that we&#039;re trying to build community in the midst of Babylon.  Money is a necessity to many people, and especially if you have kids.  I am a single mom too.  I work part-time, minimally.  I am blessed to live in what is considered my city&#039;s ghetto.  

I think a lot of the oomph behind unjobbing is just to get people to THINK about what they are doing.  A lot of people just try to make the most money they can, and spend 25% more than that.  It sounds like you&#039;ve thought about what you&#039;re doing and are doing the best you can.  That&#039;s all any of us can do!

A supportive community is so important, especially for people with children.  A kid needs a tribe as much as a parent.  I am not sure how or why, but I seem to be able to hook up with a lot of people, from all kinds of backgrounds.  I get so much emotional and spiritual support; it&#039;s unbelievable!  Several times I&#039;ve had the experience of another mom-friend tell me that they owe me so much.  And I am astonished, because I feel that I owe them so much.  There is so much abundance, we all feel blessed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To unjob doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean to quit all jobs.  The reality is that we&#8217;re trying to build community in the midst of Babylon.  Money is a necessity to many people, and especially if you have kids.  I am a single mom too.  I work part-time, minimally.  I am blessed to live in what is considered my city&#8217;s ghetto.  </p>
<p>I think a lot of the oomph behind unjobbing is just to get people to THINK about what they are doing.  A lot of people just try to make the most money they can, and spend 25% more than that.  It sounds like you&#8217;ve thought about what you&#8217;re doing and are doing the best you can.  That&#8217;s all any of us can do!</p>
<p>A supportive community is so important, especially for people with children.  A kid needs a tribe as much as a parent.  I am not sure how or why, but I seem to be able to hook up with a lot of people, from all kinds of backgrounds.  I get so much emotional and spiritual support; it&#8217;s unbelievable!  Several times I&#8217;ve had the experience of another mom-friend tell me that they owe me so much.  And I am astonished, because I feel that I owe them so much.  There is so much abundance, we all feel blessed!</p>
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		<title>By: Nyx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leah, I just saw your comment and I wanted to say something because I really can&#039;t imagine how hard that must be for you!!  That is a tough pickle you are in.  I certainly have not managed to &quot;unjob&quot; either, but I have noticed that every big change I&#039;ve ever managed to make in my life came in very slow and gradual steps, so maybe this is something that can work like that for you too, eventually.  You know, maybe you can begin to develop a hobby that is a real passion for you and over time it will just start to bring in money for you.  Also, although I am lucky to still be married and have a very small number of relatives in town, I also feel like I just don&#039;t have enough support around here where I live.  My plan, whch I havent&#039; implemented yet, is to start going to the local unitarian-universalist church, where I am hopeful that I will meet a lot of people who are like-minded in a lot of ways socially, and hopefully can build a network that way.  Never been very religious, but was psyched when I learned that there was a church where you really can be atheist and it&#039;s okay, and still get a lot of good out of it. Or at least that&#039;s what I&#039;ve heard, so I&#039;m going to check it out.  Not that I&#039;m exactly an atheist, I&#039;m just an I don&#039;t know/don&#039;t like church kind of person.  But I think community is really important.  I think that there are probably a lot of very warm hearted progressive liberal parents with small children at the unitarian church.  It&#039;s my hope anyway.  Good luck to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leah, I just saw your comment and I wanted to say something because I really can&#8217;t imagine how hard that must be for you!!  That is a tough pickle you are in.  I certainly have not managed to &#8220;unjob&#8221; either, but I have noticed that every big change I&#8217;ve ever managed to make in my life came in very slow and gradual steps, so maybe this is something that can work like that for you too, eventually.  You know, maybe you can begin to develop a hobby that is a real passion for you and over time it will just start to bring in money for you.  Also, although I am lucky to still be married and have a very small number of relatives in town, I also feel like I just don&#8217;t have enough support around here where I live.  My plan, whch I havent&#8217; implemented yet, is to start going to the local unitarian-universalist church, where I am hopeful that I will meet a lot of people who are like-minded in a lot of ways socially, and hopefully can build a network that way.  Never been very religious, but was psyched when I learned that there was a church where you really can be atheist and it&#8217;s okay, and still get a lot of good out of it. Or at least that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve heard, so I&#8217;m going to check it out.  Not that I&#8217;m exactly an atheist, I&#8217;m just an I don&#8217;t know/don&#8217;t like church kind of person.  But I think community is really important.  I think that there are probably a lot of very warm hearted progressive liberal parents with small children at the unitarian church.  It&#8217;s my hope anyway.  Good luck to you!</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myra, I am an anarchist mama in DC and so appreciate your perspective. I think it&#039;s amazing what you are doing and I so wish I could do the same. 

I get the unjobbing concept for sure. Yet I don&#039;t see how this would work for single parents with no family or other supports. 

I am a single mother living in an expensive part of the country and can&#039;t see a way out of the grind. I need to stay put where I am because I don&#039;t want to take my child away from his father who lives here. I have a job that is very supportive. I work from home and so don&#039;t need to worry about spending $ on fancy clothes, gas etc. We live very simply and still I am not sure how to live more simply without living on the street.

I guess as a single mother with no additional source of income, I don&#039;t see how it is possible. Perhaps I need to open my eyes more and see some possibilities. I hope I don&#039;t sound too frustrated, the frustration is not aimed at you, just the situation. Thanks for letting me vent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myra, I am an anarchist mama in DC and so appreciate your perspective. I think it&#8217;s amazing what you are doing and I so wish I could do the same. </p>
<p>I get the unjobbing concept for sure. Yet I don&#8217;t see how this would work for single parents with no family or other supports. </p>
<p>I am a single mother living in an expensive part of the country and can&#8217;t see a way out of the grind. I need to stay put where I am because I don&#8217;t want to take my child away from his father who lives here. I have a job that is very supportive. I work from home and so don&#8217;t need to worry about spending $ on fancy clothes, gas etc. We live very simply and still I am not sure how to live more simply without living on the street.</p>
<p>I guess as a single mother with no additional source of income, I don&#8217;t see how it is possible. Perhaps I need to open my eyes more and see some possibilities. I hope I don&#8217;t sound too frustrated, the frustration is not aimed at you, just the situation. Thanks for letting me vent.</p>
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		<title>By: redreamer</title>
		<link>http://newoldtraditions.com/2009/12/10/unschooling-unworking-confessions-of-a-stay-at-home-family-part-2-by-myra-eddy-2/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>redreamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love so many people are working it out and starting to look at life a little more reflectively. Tnanks for people like you who are passing on the message and living the road less travelled (as it SHOULDN&#039;T BE) of course.

Bright moments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love so many people are working it out and starting to look at life a little more reflectively. Tnanks for people like you who are passing on the message and living the road less travelled (as it SHOULDN&#8217;T BE) of course.</p>
<p>Bright moments.</p>
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		<title>By: myra e</title>
		<link>http://newoldtraditions.com/2009/12/10/unschooling-unworking-confessions-of-a-stay-at-home-family-part-2-by-myra-eddy-2/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>myra e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>meeting people can prove to be difficult.  i am not a bar person, nor do i go out much at night, given that i have a kid in bed, plus no money to frit away at things like that.  ideas for meeting people--farmers markets, book stores, the bus or other mass transit, demonstrations, bike rides, walking around the neighborhood and saying hi.  i started a food not lawns group here, to see if i could meet anyone involved in permaculture.  it was a lot of work, but i met a lot of people, and got the whole let&#039;s change the world and not charge a damn dime for it meme floating around.  keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meeting people can prove to be difficult.  i am not a bar person, nor do i go out much at night, given that i have a kid in bed, plus no money to frit away at things like that.  ideas for meeting people&#8211;farmers markets, book stores, the bus or other mass transit, demonstrations, bike rides, walking around the neighborhood and saying hi.  i started a food not lawns group here, to see if i could meet anyone involved in permaculture.  it was a lot of work, but i met a lot of people, and got the whole let&#8217;s change the world and not charge a damn dime for it meme floating around.  keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Indra</title>
		<link>http://newoldtraditions.com/2009/12/10/unschooling-unworking-confessions-of-a-stay-at-home-family-part-2-by-myra-eddy-2/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Indra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myra, I really enjoyed reading your two posts - I especially appreciate the math of how your are able to afford the un-working un-schooling life. I think it&#039;s important for folks that are considering it to know that where there is a will there is a way.
On the topic of communities - I also have a challenge. I unschooled for all of high school and lived by The Teenage Liberation Handbook - it was my God-send. Now I&#039;m un-working and finding it hard to keep the juices flowing without the level of interaction that you normally get when you are in the work box. It doesn&#039;t help that I live in Scandinavia - an area of the world where &quot;small talk&quot; is like a dirty word.
I don&#039;t have kiddies to get me connected on the family to family level. The only other thing I&#039;ve been trying is to get out to a local freelance cafe where other freelancers all sit in the room and drink coffee and stare into their computers. But...well, it is the way it sounds.
I&#039;m hopeful that with people being all the more connected to the internet - that unworking unschooling folks can find ways to develop lasting relationships via the web. I have hopes to unschool my kids here but the Danish system is not very accommodating unless you are a farmer (4H clubs and the like) so I&#039;m hoping to be able to do some sort of 4H-ness via Webchat and Skype...I think that could be an interesting alternative - an internationally linked unschooling and unworking community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myra, I really enjoyed reading your two posts &#8211; I especially appreciate the math of how your are able to afford the un-working un-schooling life. I think it&#8217;s important for folks that are considering it to know that where there is a will there is a way.<br />
On the topic of communities &#8211; I also have a challenge. I unschooled for all of high school and lived by The Teenage Liberation Handbook &#8211; it was my God-send. Now I&#8217;m un-working and finding it hard to keep the juices flowing without the level of interaction that you normally get when you are in the work box. It doesn&#8217;t help that I live in Scandinavia &#8211; an area of the world where &#8220;small talk&#8221; is like a dirty word.<br />
I don&#8217;t have kiddies to get me connected on the family to family level. The only other thing I&#8217;ve been trying is to get out to a local freelance cafe where other freelancers all sit in the room and drink coffee and stare into their computers. But&#8230;well, it is the way it sounds.<br />
I&#8217;m hopeful that with people being all the more connected to the internet &#8211; that unworking unschooling folks can find ways to develop lasting relationships via the web. I have hopes to unschool my kids here but the Danish system is not very accommodating unless you are a farmer (4H clubs and the like) so I&#8217;m hoping to be able to do some sort of 4H-ness via Webchat and Skype&#8230;I think that could be an interesting alternative &#8211; an internationally linked unschooling and unworking community.</p>
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		<title>By: myra e</title>
		<link>http://newoldtraditions.com/2009/12/10/unschooling-unworking-confessions-of-a-stay-at-home-family-part-2-by-myra-eddy-2/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>myra e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a stay at home family is fun and awesome, but it can be a lonely experience until you hook up with a tribe.  The nuclear family is over-rated.  Life in general becomes easier and more rewarding when you can find a community to belong to, to belong with.  

My community involves many stay-at-home moms, some with small children and some that homeschool.  We do not always have a lot in common philosophically, other than we enjoy each others&#039; presence; we get the idea of community and we&#039;re willing to put effort into a lasting relationship.  I also know several scarcely employed artists, or what you might call life artists, who have the time to put care into a relationship.  It can be frustrating to meet cool people, and not get to hang out, because they&#039;re too busy.  I mean, that&#039;s just too bad!  I have many friends and acquaintances that work, and we hang out on the rare occasion when we get the chance.

It amuses me that I was a total outcast growing up, with no friends.  And now I have so many friends--I&#039;m so blessed!  I would not be where I am now without my community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a stay at home family is fun and awesome, but it can be a lonely experience until you hook up with a tribe.  The nuclear family is over-rated.  Life in general becomes easier and more rewarding when you can find a community to belong to, to belong with.  </p>
<p>My community involves many stay-at-home moms, some with small children and some that homeschool.  We do not always have a lot in common philosophically, other than we enjoy each others&#8217; presence; we get the idea of community and we&#8217;re willing to put effort into a lasting relationship.  I also know several scarcely employed artists, or what you might call life artists, who have the time to put care into a relationship.  It can be frustrating to meet cool people, and not get to hang out, because they&#8217;re too busy.  I mean, that&#8217;s just too bad!  I have many friends and acquaintances that work, and we hang out on the rare occasion when we get the chance.</p>
<p>It amuses me that I was a total outcast growing up, with no friends.  And now I have so many friends&#8211;I&#8217;m so blessed!  I would not be where I am now without my community.</p>
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		<title>By: Nyx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think about this sort of thing a lot.  currently, I work 3 hours per day from home, and I am fortunate to work in a profession where I am paid pretty handsomely for it, but I don&#039;t expect it to last.  However, my experience has been that it feels very isolated and lonely.  Granted, part of my problem is that I have twins, nearly 3, one of whom has an autism spectrum disorder, which means that it is hard to go too many places because of a need to provide him with constant interaction (which is his therapy).  But my neighbors, with a child the same age as mine, are never ever home.  They are always working or running errands.  I have a friend who lives only 1 mile away and also has a son the same age as mine, but she also is never ever home.  Same story, except when she is home she is exhausted and needs to decompress.  My question is, have you found that you are able to connect with a community in your unjobbing?  I have come to appreciate that many people get the jobs, not for the money or even the benefits (although they think they do), but really just because they need it to feel that they are a part of society.  I am at a loss as to how to unjob and unschool for the long haul and be part of a tribe, rather than spend all day long just me and my 2 sons?  At some point, we just have to have some more people in our lives ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think about this sort of thing a lot.  currently, I work 3 hours per day from home, and I am fortunate to work in a profession where I am paid pretty handsomely for it, but I don&#8217;t expect it to last.  However, my experience has been that it feels very isolated and lonely.  Granted, part of my problem is that I have twins, nearly 3, one of whom has an autism spectrum disorder, which means that it is hard to go too many places because of a need to provide him with constant interaction (which is his therapy).  But my neighbors, with a child the same age as mine, are never ever home.  They are always working or running errands.  I have a friend who lives only 1 mile away and also has a son the same age as mine, but she also is never ever home.  Same story, except when she is home she is exhausted and needs to decompress.  My question is, have you found that you are able to connect with a community in your unjobbing?  I have come to appreciate that many people get the jobs, not for the money or even the benefits (although they think they do), but really just because they need it to feel that they are a part of society.  I am at a loss as to how to unjob and unschool for the long haul and be part of a tribe, rather than spend all day long just me and my 2 sons?  At some point, we just have to have some more people in our lives &#8230;.</p>
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